>Shallow Depth of Field, Here I Come


Just a quick picture of this monster. I haven’t calibrated it yet, but with a Sony HC3 (HDV 1080i), a RedRock Micro M2 adapter, a Canon EF-lens mount plus the Canon 70-200mm 1:4 L lens, and a DeckLink Intensity card for 4:2:2 HDMI capture to Premiere Pro, this setup will be able to provide a pretty decent picture.

The camera is on loan, I’m thinking of getting the yet unreleased Canon HV20 which is a 1080p25 camera, if it supports 4:2:2 HDMI capture.

I’m not sure what I’ll shoot yet, but any ideas are welcome…

- Jonas

18 Responses to >Shallow Depth of Field, Here I Come

  1. Anonymous

    >Wow, that is re-dick-u-lous!

  2. Anonymous

    >No, this is cool… but you are ridiculous.

  3. madu

    >this is mad !!
    tell us more please Jonas

  4. Anonymous

    >Hi! It would be nice to some test clip from this creation!!! Please Jonas!


  5. Jonas Hummelstrand

    >A big fat cold, a misplaced M2 manual and my uncle’s funeral means that the test clips will have to wait a while.

    Another thing I want to try is how the other Canon lenses I have work with the M2 since the lenses are digital-SLR-only meaning they have smaller imaging areas.

  6. Anonymous

    >there is more money on the front of that thing then that camera itself.

    its too badd that the glass in the camera isnt going to make the image better.

    i would try to get a better cam behind that nice adapter.

  7. Jonas Hummelstrand

    >Yes, the HC3 isn’t that expensive, but why should it have to be? True, it’s interlaced and not a full-size 1920×1080 sensor, but with the HDMI-out giving you 4:2:2 output, the value is pretty hard to beat (until the 1080p Canon HV-20 is released with progressive recording and a full-size sensor.)

    No glass in the world will improve a real-world image, and especially not two lenses and a ground-glass in between them, that’s true.

    Still, I’m a sucker for shallow DoF and I’d rather spend the money on an M2 adapter that gives me film-like “bok√©” with any video camera, instead of spending several thousands on a camera that will not be able to produce the cinematic focus look and that will become antiquated in six months by the next big camera (that will still procduce video-like images.)

    What do you guys think?

  8. tern

    >I asked over on another site if the HV-20 would be the best/cheapest consumer/prosumer camera available for greenscreen work because of the uncompressed 4:2:2 HDMI output. I’m a little technically challeged & I don’t understand all of the ins-n-outs of video, but I’m under the impression that two of the most important issues for keying are a) 4:2:2 (or better) color sampling and b) uncompressed images. Therefore, does that tend to reason that The HV-20 should do a pretty reasonable job for keying work? Plus, it’ll be 24p capable, adding to its cinema-esque qualities. How big of a detriment will the single CMOS sensor be to its keying capabilities? Would you expect the combo of 24p with the M2 adapter to be able to provide some nice images? Thank in advance – & thanks for your great Green/Bluescreen checklist.

  9. Anonymous

    >only tests will tell on the subject of a smaller chip camera being able to get the right amount of color and detail for green/blue or vfx shots.
    but technology is changing fast and it might be possible soon to do this with hdmi a black magic card and a good dp and lightperson
    you can have the best came but if you dont know how to light it you might as well throw it all in the garbage (the footage not the cam)

    Jonas how has your luck been getting this thing set up and getting the focus right wih the GG on the redrock , the set up time the massivness has kept me away from the M2 and on the Brevis set up

  10. Jonas Hummelstrand

    >Like I said, I haven’t had time to test the setup yet. Whenever I get a couple of hours to myself, I’ll give it a spin.

  11. Anonymous

    >I have been having great luck on greenscreens with the Panasonic HVX200 – it has a PN mode that is a true progressive frame (not an in-camera pull-down like the dvx100 does). Blue channel is noisy (like most HD) but very workable. Our website was done with a mix of Varicam and HVX200.

    Jonas – you are the man btw – please keep up your postings – they are fantastic!


  12. Jonas Hummelstrand


    Thanks for your comment. Do you have a URL to your site?

    Boy, I really wish these Blogger-comments had more interactivity to them, so one could keep the discussion going…

  13. Anonymous

    >Hi Jonas! Have you got this cam going?

    Best Regards / Jimmy

  14. Jonas Hummelstrand


    I have my Canon HV-20 on the desk beside me, and the RedRock Micro M2 in a box beneth the desk, but that is as far as I’ve gotten. I ordered the correct step-up rings during the holiday, but haven’t fitted them yet.

    I’m on an insane deadline right now (creating the titles and gfx for a national show that airs in less than a week) so I hope I’ll get the time to experiment in the coming weeks. I wish… :)

  15. Anonymous

    >Hi Jonas! Just want to drop a line. What do you think about the RED-project? Have been i contact with the RED team but it seems impossible to try this in Sweden or even going to Californa and meet them. No retailers, no shops except the webb-shop.
    Have you been i contact with someone from Sweden using it?

    Regards / Jimmy

  16. Jonas Hummelstrand


    I know there’s early reservation holders in Stockholm Sweden that are expecting shipments during the fall of 07.

  17. Moss

    >Hi Jonas! the HV20 was a good choice, it is a true HD camcorder and has 3 zoom speeds which i think would give you a lot of cool possibilities with setup you’ve made. Have you tested it yet?!
    Where did you get the platform that carries the cam+EOSadapter+telephoto lens??
    Thanks / Moss

  18. Jonas Hummelstrand

    >With a photo-lens adapter you keep the camera focused on the spinning disc inside the adapter, which came with the rails. Find out more about it at RedRockMicro

    I did get the HV-20 but haven’t had time to do much with it, I keep coming up with overambitious ideas like building my own joystick-controlled camera job.